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Apr 21, 2008 19:02:12 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 21, 2008 19:02:12 GMT -5
Heat Get: PG/SG Bobby Jackson 74 $6,090,000/1 PF Marcus Haislip 69-----$2,000,000-----$3,000,000(PO)---$3,500,000(PO) 2nd 2010 (Bobcats)
Incoming: $8,090,000 Outgoing: $9,3250,000
Kitty Kats Get: PF Antoine Walker SF/SF 72 $9,320,500/1 1st 2010 (Heat)
Incoming: $9,3250,000 Outgoing: $8,090,000
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Apr 21, 2008 19:06:14 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 21, 2008 19:06:14 GMT -5
I won't lie, I voted for myself. Basically I already had a replacement for Jackson in Delonte, who's younger and a better player in my opinion. Also I hated having Haislip on my team. His Player Options made him hard for me to move whenever I tried, so I was glad to be rid of him. Also opened up a spot finally to sign one of Hansbrough, JCN, or Ibaka... Toine isn't great anymore, but he's an even bigger expiring contract, and he's my best PF on the bench now. Could toy with starting him at PF and moving Emeka to C. We'll see. Add the pick swap and I like it for myself. I'm sure Miami has just as many reasons he did it though
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Apr 21, 2008 19:32:32 GMT -5
Post by Miami Heat on Apr 21, 2008 19:32:32 GMT -5
Starting SG, I had a dilemma because both my boys struggled there...well Rush was okay but I want the rook coming off the bench to start off. Jackson can score and I can put up MAD points on any night. I don't even think it's comparable who it's better for now, as for later it's better for the Bobcats.
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Apr 21, 2008 19:39:06 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 21, 2008 19:39:06 GMT -5
I guess I see where you're coming from. You get a better suited SG, but ratings are the same. For me it's like
Jackson/Haislip for Toine/Hansbrough plus more time for Delonte and a pick swap that favors me heavily.
I just like it for me but that's why we'd each do the deal if we each liked it.
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Apr 21, 2008 20:05:22 GMT -5
Post by Miami Heat on Apr 21, 2008 20:05:22 GMT -5
You had Psycho T long before we thought up this deal, it does help your depth but for me to get a starting 2 guard makes it a lot bigger of a deal for me. Now the pick you are right but you never know with that kind of stuff, plus I feel like I was lucky to get a pick back anyways
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Apr 21, 2008 21:02:45 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 21, 2008 21:02:45 GMT -5
I had Psycho T, but now I have a roster spot. I think its obvious what I was saying. You get your starting SG who's shorter than your starting PG, but he can score, at least he did when he had CP3 passing to him. We'll see with Starbury.
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Apr 21, 2008 21:06:02 GMT -5
Post by Miami Heat on Apr 21, 2008 21:06:02 GMT -5
haha I'm quick though! Uptemp, Hawes will be breathing hard....
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Apr 21, 2008 21:16:05 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 21, 2008 21:16:05 GMT -5
6'11" 245lbs - Biedrins - 22 years old 7'0" 230 lbs - Hawes - 19 years old
I don't think you're giving hawes enough credit for being more athletic. He'll match up quite ok on Biedrins thank you very much.
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Apr 21, 2008 21:27:51 GMT -5
Post by Miami Heat on Apr 21, 2008 21:27:51 GMT -5
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Apr 21, 2008 21:34:50 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 21, 2008 21:34:50 GMT -5
Did you read what you posted? Here's Hawes' write-up
Strengths: Hawes is very long and has very good hands. He runs the floor very well for his size. His ball-handling, is fantastic, especially in the open court, as he played a lot of guard before his reaching his full height. Hawes is very smooth on the court, and has a great, soft touch around the basket.
runs the floor very well for his size.
The other write-up on him...
Strengths: A center with very good offensive understanding with developed moves ... Has a sweet offensive repertoire with hooks and drop steps ...A tough nosed player with great attitude ... Has the ability to use either hand inside with very good touch ... Has a good frame with long arms and excellent hands ... Competitive and very coachable ... Good passer ... Hard worker whose game has improved leaps and bounds in a short time ... Good athlete, gets up and down the floor well ...
Good athlete, gets up and down the floor well...
They mainly compared him to Miller cuz he's a great passing big man and has a nice/decent outside shot.
thank you, and good night.
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Apr 21, 2008 21:38:12 GMT -5
Post by Miami Heat on Apr 21, 2008 21:38:12 GMT -5
You forgot this my SE Division Rival....
Weaknesses: Definitely needs to bulk up more for life in the paint in college. He needs to develop alternate post moves. He lacks great quickness. He will occasionally settle for taking outside shots instead of attacking from the post. His rebounding skills could be improved. Spencer is not an amazing athlete and has trouble with smaller quicker opponents. He could improve his overall defense.
Do they say that about my boy Biedrins? What about Okafor against Amare?
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Apr 21, 2008 21:39:44 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 21, 2008 21:39:44 GMT -5
quickness is different from the ability to run up and down the floor with success.
They didn't say hardly anything about Biedrins so I couldn't quote anything. Their site has grown a bit since then.
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Apr 21, 2008 21:41:25 GMT -5
Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 21, 2008 21:41:25 GMT -5
Also, I don't expect him to be a Kobe Bryant athlete, so saying "he's not an amazing athlete" isn't much of a weakness. Biedrins isn't a "smaller, quicker opponent" either so that's not a worry.
Emeka vs. Amare will be fun stuff. Amare probably wins cuz it's a sim league but it'll be a fun matchup.
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Apr 21, 2008 21:43:12 GMT -5
Post by Miami Heat on Apr 21, 2008 21:43:12 GMT -5
I've seen Biedrins play, he runs the floor like a forward....Hawes sounds like he is good for a bigman but Biedrins is more like a "smaller quicker player."
Yeah Amare has so much ability but Okie is smart, I think the best way for Okie to stop Amare is to attack him on offense....really you could do that to my whole team haha.
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Apr 21, 2008 21:56:01 GMT -5
Post by Phoenix Suns on Apr 21, 2008 21:56:01 GMT -5
Pretty fair trade, Bobcats open a roster spot for one of their prospects while Miami finally gets a SG not named Matt Barnes. I think in the long run it benefits Charlotte but right now Miami. Getting a shooter to space the floor for Amare and Melo is vital.
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Apr 22, 2008 5:32:23 GMT -5
Post by Atlanta Hawks on Apr 22, 2008 5:32:23 GMT -5
I don't think you've seen Biedrins play, he's like a 7'0 AK47. man thats the second time u surprise me, AK is way faster way quicker abetter defender better shooter abetter stealer hes better at all Bidrens is agood rebounder and blocker and dunker big man.
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Apr 22, 2008 13:48:54 GMT -5
Post by Miami Heat on Apr 22, 2008 13:48:54 GMT -5
I don't think you've seen Biedrins play, he's like a 7'0 AK47. man thats the second time u surprise me, AK is way faster way quicker abetter defender better shooter abetter stealer hes better at all Bidrens is agood rebounder and blocker and dunker big man. I'm not saying he IS AK47 but he plays a lot like him, yeah he doesn't have the outside game but he is 3 inches taller. They look and move a lot a like is all I'm saying, also both great shot blockers.
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