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Post by Phoenix Suns on Jun 15, 2009 20:53:30 GMT -5
Congrats to the 2009 NBA Champions on a great playoff run. Shaq - How does Kobe's ass taste They'll have some tough decisions this summer with Ariza and Odom both needing new contracts.
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Post by masterm - former HOU on Jun 15, 2009 21:16:05 GMT -5
Congrats...Orlando had no chance...lack of experience was really "strong" this time too...
Kobe will be even more son of a b!tch than he was before...the guy didnt even shake Bill Russell's hand after he received the MVP...f*ck him
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jun 16, 2009 2:20:24 GMT -5
He's also supposedly going to opt out to try and get more money. If Hedo and Shaq go to the Cavs 72 wins could be within reach.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jun 16, 2009 18:10:02 GMT -5
Congrats...Orlando had no chance...lack of experience was really "strong" this time too... Kobe will be even more son of a b!tch than he was before...the guy didnt even shake Bill Russell's hand after he received the MVP...f*ck him maybe first you should not make yourself look retarded in the internet before your open your mouth. www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuIM5JA9ZKglook at 0:48 of the video and your blind ass would see he did shake Russell's hands. and if anyone has been a ***** it has been Shaq and that loser Le*****, I am a winner so I don't shake hands please. And Shaq let's not go there we know what he did telling him to taste his ass yeah and now frontrunning his way to CLE since he can't win with lottery teams and know's he is a second rate side kick yeah let's not go there. WHILE on the other hand Kobe took all the cheap shots Shaq has been giving him in the media and didn't say a WORD about it.
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Post by masterm - former HOU on Jun 16, 2009 20:33:34 GMT -5
Haha I was just waiting for u to make some comment...whatever...Kobe is and will be even more b!tch because of that title
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jun 16, 2009 20:49:27 GMT -5
LeBron still has done something Kobe has and NEVER will. James took a second rate team to the Finals. If the Cavs add Shaq and Hedo you can book a title for Cleveland next year.
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Jun 16, 2009 21:39:02 GMT -5
Haha I was just waiting for u to make some comment...whatever...Kobe is and will be even more b!tch because of that title How do you figure?
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Post by connect on Jun 17, 2009 11:38:48 GMT -5
Agree with what Phoenix said, Lebron took the CAVS in the playoffs All by Himself. and needs a partner to win the title, KOBE needs SHAQ to win three tittles, SHAQ needs WADE to win a title in MIAMI and NOw KOBE needs GASOL,ODOM,BYNUM,ARIZA and FISHER to win. PEACE,
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Jun 17, 2009 15:26:57 GMT -5
What's all this talk about LeBron needing a partner? How come nobody was saying this when the Cavs finished the regular season with the best record?
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jun 18, 2009 4:20:44 GMT -5
What's all this talk about LeBron needing a partner? How come nobody was saying this when the Cavs finished the regular season with the best record? His supporting cast was playing either at their highest level or above their heads. Mo Williams was killing it until the playoffs started. Delonte West was the only player besides LeBron to play with any type of game to game and series to series consistency. Z, Varejao, and Big Ben all struggled offensively. I remember watching a game where Z missed six straight wide open jump shots. Boozer leaving is still hurting this team.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jun 18, 2009 9:04:51 GMT -5
PLEASE JUST STOP IT.
so if Kobe or Wade or MELO scores a lot it's BALLHOGGING, and if Lebron does it it's HE DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH HELP.
LEBRON HAS PLENTY OF HELP THIS YEAR, I HATE SKIP BAYLESS BUT I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAYS ABOUT LEBRON.
yes I'll agree with everyone that KOBE'S and MELO'S and Dwight's team has 10 times more talent then Lebron's team does.
but don't start that LBJ has no talent BS or supporting cast.
He has Mo Williams, Big Z, Varajao, West, Gibson, Pavlovic, B. Wallace, D. Gooden, Wally, L. Hughes (they tried to make him a PG but he's a F'N SG.), Joe Smith.
heck he had more help on his team then HAKEEM had in 94 and 95, it was basically Hakeem, almost broken down Drexler, and Young Horry, Kenny Smith, and Sam Cassell.
so if everything goes right then it's LBJ, LBJ, LBJ, but if it's the other way around it's not LBJ but his teammates.
and before you start the he went to the finals in 07 by himself look who he faced, a overrated Pistons and Wizards team, and a Nets team with it's starting Center (Krystic) injured. and Daniel Gibson more then anybody stepped up against the Pistons team that had NO BEN WALLACE.
Lebron is a great player no doubt but don't say he didn't have a supporting cast. and it's also easy to blame Lebrons teammates when you have a MENTALLY FRAGILE HC in Mike Brown who isn't the coach of the year that also should go to Lebron because he runs the team. his HC never holds LBJ accountable because he know's he would be fired if he did that just ONCE.
and if you have watched the games againist the Magic, Lebron showed his TRUE NATURE of HIS GAME (not character GAME HIS GAME) which is dribble dribble and dribble until 20 seconds runs off the clock and then drive to the basket OR kick it out, he does that exact same play about 70 percent of the time. That causes the Offense to be stagnant and no one knows what to do then.
and another problem in his game his is JUMP SHOT, which is still shaky at best he still can't shoot a jump shot or a FT (4th quarter).
so basically LBJ is USELESS WITHOUT THE BALL because you can't rely on him to shoot jumpers, and everyone talks about his great defense what great defense, he is a good transition shot blocker and weak side defender and that's about it. his ONE ON ONE defense is still PATHETIC, Lewis and Turkglou just owned him.
and as far as Boozer goes that was ALL BOOZER, he cheated on CLEVELAND and now he's CHEATING on Utah, and if I am fans of both those teams I say thank goodeness. Boozer is becoming Vince Carter in a way.
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Post by connect on Jun 19, 2009 9:38:03 GMT -5
NOt a LBJ fans and also not an KOBE fans, just my opinion,
about the regular season, why no one is saying that LBJ needs a partner when the CAVS has the BEST records, cause his supporting casts is really playing good basketball while during the post season they are terrible.
For me. LBJ needs a Supporting casts that are CONSISTENT EVEN IN THE PLAYOFFS and also a HC that knows how to make rotation and mismatches,(WEST against HEDO/LEWIS)lol to win a title and in his jumpshots his jumpshot are really improving and there are times when HE is really on fire(against MIL) and On his defense I guess He was guarding ALston not HEDO and LEWIS it was WEST that LEWIS and HEDO is owning and as for Kobe, He deserves that title HE is really playing good basketball and with the BEST supporting casts in the league THEY will really win the title this year and possibly next year if they will retain ODOM and ARIZA PEACE
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jun 19, 2009 13:27:23 GMT -5
NOt a LBJ fans and also not an KOBE fans, just my opinion, about the regular season, why no one is saying that LBJ needs a partner when the CAVS has the BEST records, cause his supporting casts is really playing good basketball while during the post season they are terrible. For me. LBJ needs a Supporting casts that are CONSISTENT EVEN IN THE PLAYOFFS and also a HC that knows how to make rotation and mismatches,(WEST against HEDO/LEWIS)lol to win a title and in his jumpshots his jumpshot are really improving and there are times when HE is really on fire(against MIL) and On his defense I guess He was guarding ALston not HEDO and LEWIS it was WEST that LEWIS and HEDO is owning and as for Kobe, He deserves that title HE is really playing good basketball and with the BEST supporting casts in the league THEY will really win the title this year and possibly next year if they will retain ODOM and ARIZA PEACE but still I hate it when everyone says the Cavs win because of LEBRON but when he loses it's BECAUSE HIS TEAMMATES SUCKS. I mean they didn't win 66 games by accident now hell they had the best record in the NBA. if Cavs want a RUNNING mate with LEBRON there's 2 TRADES I would consider RIGHT NOW. Ben Wallace for RIP Hamilton (DET wants more expiring contracts and also they allegedly promised BG a contract) and the other is Big Z and Pavlovic for A. Jamison (WAS is trying to clear cap space by trying to trade the 5th pick (which is dumb) so this would be a trade that would help out BOTH sides for the long term. and the Cavs select a BIG MAN with 30th pick PG M. Williams SG RIP SF LBJ PF A. Jamison C 30th pick (Hansbourough or maybe RESIGN Varajao.)
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Post by washington - former WAS on Jun 19, 2009 16:06:29 GMT -5
Hansborough won't be there at 30.
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Jun 19, 2009 21:02:26 GMT -5
If Varejao wants 10M let him walk, no way you give that much to a role player.
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jun 20, 2009 0:20:29 GMT -5
NOt a LBJ fans and also not an KOBE fans, just my opinion, about the regular season, why no one is saying that LBJ needs a partner when the CAVS has the BEST records, cause his supporting casts is really playing good basketball while during the post season they are terrible. For me. LBJ needs a Supporting casts that are CONSISTENT EVEN IN THE PLAYOFFS and also a HC that knows how to make rotation and mismatches,(WEST against HEDO/LEWIS)lol to win a title and in his jumpshots his jumpshot are really improving and there are times when HE is really on fire(against MIL) and On his defense I guess He was guarding ALston not HEDO and LEWIS it was WEST that LEWIS and HEDO is owning and as for Kobe, He deserves that title HE is really playing good basketball and with the BEST supporting casts in the league THEY will really win the title this year and possibly next year if they will retain ODOM and ARIZA PEACE but still I hate it when everyone says the Cavs win because of LEBRON but when he loses it's BECAUSE HIS TEAMMATES SUCKS. I mean they didn't win 66 games by accident now hell they had the best record in the NBA. Who the hell is saying that? What is being said is that his supporting cast disappeared in the playoffs. The regular season and the playoffs aren't the same thing. Also, how can you even say his supporting cast is good or good enough and include Ilgauskas, Varejao and Big Ben? All three were anemic on offense at best and Z just disappeared in some games. Mo Williams, Wally, Gibson, and Pavlovic are supposed to be shooters and able to consistently knock down shots but they failed miserably throughout the ENTIRE playoffs. You can't have one good game here and there and expect to win a championship even with LeBron. Also, that thing you hate is kinda true. LeBron makes his teammates better. There is no way the Cavs would have won anywhere near 66 games without him even if you switched LeBron out with Kobe or Wade. Also, you will very rarely watch a Cavs game that they lose and come away completely blaming LeBron. He gets open and sometimes wide open shots for his teammates. If they lose it is most likely because his teammates missed the open shots he created for them.
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Post by connect on Jun 20, 2009 9:58:30 GMT -5
Exactly !!! Lebron needs an OFFENSIVE MINDED AND CONSISTENT SCORER Role player to win a title, IF KOBE and Lebron will change places/teams I definitely think that LBJ has won the title...
Each player has its own achievements,!! Lebron-youngest player to win MVP(not sure) - has been able to bring a second rate team to the Finals. KOBE- Finals MVP -4 championship RINGS
not being one sided but I guess LBJ can still achieved what KObe has achieved,
PEACE
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jun 21, 2009 22:34:41 GMT -5
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Post by connect on Jun 22, 2009 0:38:50 GMT -5
Now this thread has been a LEBRON VERSUS KOBE THREAD, hahaha
If you are a Kobe fan than you likely believe him to be not guilty of the sexual assault accusations, you do not blame him for Shaq’s departure from the Lakers, and you view his trade demands and lambasting of the Los Angeles Lakers over the off-season as justified. If you abhor Kobe than you more than likely feel he was responsible for Shaq’s departure and all of the turmoil before and after Shaq’s exit. His trade demands this past summer further proving his self-centeredness and lack of loyalty.(from foxsport)
About the Tshirt, i guess Kobe has also a KOBE MVP t.shirt
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Jun 22, 2009 2:51:37 GMT -5
What the HELL does wearing a t-shirt have to do with making his teammates better? For all I care he could wear a shirt that says, "I kill puppies."
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