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Post by Phoenix Suns on May 3, 2008 16:53:55 GMT -5
www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=236359&lid=sublink09&lpos=headlines_mlb A little premature given its only the second year of the deal. He could turn it around as quickly as he lost it. Even so, i wouldnt call it the worst ever because he had a pretty established track record. And it was a Cy Young winning track record at that. Its not like they gave 127 million to some one year guy, they gave it to a former Cy Young winner with half a dozen very good years under his belt Thoughts?
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on May 4, 2008 8:45:31 GMT -5
Yea hindsight is 20/20 basically. There is no way ANYONE would have wanted him if they knew this is what he was gonna be. At the time, most thought he got too much, but that's how the market works. no one had any clue he'd be this terrible though.
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Post by Phoenix Suns on May 4, 2008 13:28:55 GMT -5
Man, what happened to him? Its not like he had one big year, then never lived up to it again. His first 3 1/2 years in the league he was phenomenal. In fact 6 of his first 7 seasons he was great. Now he seems like a bottom of the rotation guy at best. this is one of the biggest falloffs I have ever seen.
Just goes to show you, you can never tell what a guy will do the next year.
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Post by New Jersey Nets on May 4, 2008 17:18:54 GMT -5
It still was a huge mistake. A 7 year deal? I wouldn't give a 7 year deal to Santana. Too much can go wrong.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on May 4, 2008 19:03:38 GMT -5
Yea, I'm a Braves fan, and I know it has hurt them a little in getting a free agent from time to time, but they will NEVER give more than 3 year contract to a pitcher. Maybe if there is some sort of huge insurance package of some sort with it, but pretty much never.
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Post by fhci14 - Former GS Warriors on May 12, 2008 17:17:53 GMT -5
Baron Davis
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Post by Phoenix Suns on May 12, 2008 18:08:05 GMT -5
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Post by ragas2134 on May 12, 2008 18:09:07 GMT -5
hahaha
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Post by Phoenix Suns on May 12, 2008 18:13:43 GMT -5
Randomness at it's best
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Post by New Jersey Nets on May 12, 2008 20:20:05 GMT -5
Snoo-snoo
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Post by fhci14 - Former GS Warriors on May 12, 2008 22:38:30 GMT -5
wrong thread lol it was suppose to be for the 3pt shooter n dunker
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Post by Phoenix Suns on May 17, 2008 12:37:45 GMT -5
Now, correct me if I'm wrong (I usually won't watch a SF game--announcers voices just grind a gear for some reason), but he is primarily fastball (88-90) & change-up (80ish) with the curveball (low 70s). While his curveball got the attention because it looked awesome, he was still primarily fastball & change-up. Why is switching to the NL killing him? It's not like his work ethic has really dropped off (he was always the "surfer" dude to begin with). While is BB/9IP has gone up compared to his better years, it's not in a noticeable manner--his K/9IP have consistently declined since 2004. Has his stuff finally caught up with him? I mean, realistically speaking, if a hitter can figure out his change-up, he's nothing special at all. His fastball would become quite hitable and the curveball isn't exactly a "rely on me" type pitch. Is that? People finally figured out how to handle the fastball/change-up and his curveball isn't effective enough for him to adjust? Or what? If you buy into the "NL is a fastball, AL is a breaking pitch league" theories, is it simply that he no longer stands out? He's just another fastball/change-up with occasional breaking pitch guy instead of a fastball/change-up pitcher surrounded by breaking ballers?
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